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John Joseph Tinneny Sr.

John Joseph Tinneny Sr. was the third child and first son of Patrick Tinneny and Margaret Malloy. John’s father was born on Goladuff, Newtownbutler, County Fermanagh, Northern Ireland. He left Ireland in his late teens to work in the Tate and Lyle Sugar Refinery in Greenock. He worked there until immigrating to the United States with his family in 1900. His mother was born and raised in Renfrewshire, Scotland. Her parents were of Irish decent.  John was born in Greenock, Scotland.

Patrick and Margaret Tinneny

A painting by Patrick Downie of St. Marys Catholic Church, Greenock in 1887. Painted the year before John was born and as he would have seen Saint Mary’s in the winters of his youth.

John attended school for 10 years then worked in a local shipyard in Scotland for a year.  He was very good at mathematics and was an avid reader.

View overlooking Greenock and the River Clyde.

Many years later John talked about growing up in Scotland and how he and some of his friends would journey around the country during the summers finding work helping farmers.  They slept in hay lofts and worked for meals and a little money.  He said some nights were quite cold and at times they couldnt sleep because of the field mice making noise. Johnny told one of his sons that when he was a young boy living in Scotland he used to go to the mountains and sit on the cliffs and watch the eagles soar.

Above left is an extract from the 1891 Census of Scotland showing John’s information and on the right the list of other household members. About 10 years after this census the family immigrated to the United States and settled in the Manayunk section of Philadelphia. In addition to the children listed in the census Patrick and Margaret had another child Francis born in February 1899 who died in Greenock March 29, 1900.

In 1900 John immigrated to the United States. He initially lived with his parents and siblings in a rented home at 306 Carson Street in Manayunk. His parents then purchased a home at 185 Baldwin Street where John lived until his marriage to Alice.

                306 Carson Street                                      183 Baldwin Street

John worked with alloys in a small steel mill for a short time before landing a job at the Midvale Steel Works in Nicetown Philadelphia. He worked there as a moulder the remainder of his working life. 

Midvale produced high-quality steels, including many alloy steels, and provided the casting, forging, and machining needed to use them in special applications such as heavy artillery (naval, coastal, and field); steam turbines; naval armor plate; and pressure vessels for use in chemical plants, for example in petroleum refineries. Midvale also helped pioneer the steel formulas used in the early automotive industry.

 

John married 18 year old  Alice Mabel McCouch in 1904. She was the daughter of Matthew and Elizabeth Carter McCouch. Her father was from Philadelphia and her mother from England. She was born in Delaware July10, 1886.

 

 

Birth Registration of Alice McCouch.

By 1900 the McCouch family had moved from Delaware to Seville Street in the Roxborough section of Philadelphia which was several blocks from John’s home on Carson Street. John and Alice married June 8, 1904 and by 1910 had purchased a home at 4540 Silverwood Street in Manayunk not far from John’s parents home.

John and his family were enumerated in the 1910 US Census taken April 15th at their home on Silverwood Street.  John was 25 years old Alice 23, Elizabeth 4 and John Jr. 2. Also living in the house was Alice's brother Matthew McGooch, age 20.  Matthew's occupation was listed as a carpenter while Johns as a moulder in an iron mill.

The Tinneny home 4540 Silverwood Street.

John with daughter Elizabeth and his youngest brother Patrick Tinneny about 1907.

 

This early photo of Alice marked Mom” is from a photo album of John and Alices daughter Marie Tinneny Kratz and was contributed by Maries grandson Ken Robinson.

 

 

Alice McCouch Tinneny.

August 19, 1910 John and Alice's son James was born. According to family members he was an albino.

James Tinneny Certificate of Birth.

Seven years later tragedy struck the Tinneny home when young James died of pneumonia associated with influenza during the great epidemic of 1918. He was buried in Westminister Cemetery across the Schuykill River from Manayunk.

James Tinneny Certificate of Death

September 12, 1918 John complied with the national law that required all males register for the draft. He did so at his local Draft Board at 4215 Manayunk Avenue in Manayunk. Although registered he was never called for service in World War I.

Johns Draft Registration Card for World War I.

As a young girl, John's niece Trudy Tinneny remembered visiting her Uncle Johnny and Aunt Alice at their home on Silverwood Street.  She recalled that her Aunt Alice always seemed to be ill and resting on a cot which was permanently placed in the dinning room of the home.  Another memory of those visits was her Aunt Alice always had mashed potatoes. 

John's grandson Howard Cossabone recalled the time when John decided to extend the basement under his home on Silverwood Street.  John would excavate the basement by hand and put one or two buckets of dirt out by the side of the street each week with the trash for the trash men to cart away.  

John made his only trip back to Scotland in June of 1925. He sailed from New York to Glasgow aboard the T.S.S. Cameronia arriving June 28th then traveled to Greenock where he visited relatives for several weeks.

 

Manifest Anchor Line TSS Cameronia.

According to the ships manifest John stayed at 87 Wellington Street in Greenock which was likely the home of a relative. Throughout the visit he inquired about his sister Mary Janes husband John McColgan.  McColgan was originally from Greenock and followed Mary Jane to America and married her. The couple settled in New Jersey. Mary Jane died from complications following childbirth leaving John with four young children. Unable to care for them, he took them to an orphanage and left the area never to be seen again.

John and his brother Jim took Mary Janes children from the orphanage. John and Alice took Isabella to raise, James and his wife raised Edward. John were raised by Johns sister Margaret and her husband Edward McKenna. Catherine "Kitty" was raised by Barney and Mary Malloy. Additional details about Mary Jane and her family can be viewed at her Biography. 

John didnt drink alcohol until he was in his 50s and then only a couple of glasses of beer a week. Like some of his siblings who abstained, he may have done so as a result of seeing his fathers issues with alcohol. 

John and Alices children were Elizabeth, John, Alice, James, Joseph, and Marie. John and Alice also raised his sister Mary Jane McColgans daughter Isabella who, although not formally adopted, used the name Tinneny instead of McColgan.


 

John seated with his daughter Marie on his left the other girl is unknown.

John had a wonderful sense of humor. His great nephew Richard Tinneny went to school with Jim Tinneny and spent a lot of time at the Tinneny home on Silverwood Street. He had fond memories of these visits.  Aunt Mary always treating him to home made pie, sandwiches, cookies or other treats. He was impressed that his Uncle John always stopping what he was doing and coming into the living room singing, dancing or telling stories.              

The following photos were taken in the back yard of John and Alice’s home on Silverwood Street during what was likely a family Easter gathering in the mid 1930s.                                                                              

John hamming it up in the back yard with his daughters Marie, Elizabeth and Alice with his wife Alice in the doorway.

                Another photo the same day with Johns son John in the picture.

 

John’s daughter Elizabeth her husband Howard Cossabone Sr. and Howard Jr. with Alice in the door and daughter Marie looking on.

Alice McCouch Tinneny at the beach.

All males were once again were required to registered for the draft with the onset of world War II. April 27, 1942, John registered at Local Board 21 located at 471 Levrington Avenue. He was not selected to serve likely because of his age and his employment in a critical civilian occupation at the steel mill that supported the war effort.

Johns WWII Draft Registration Form.

L-R: Mary Tinneny Kratz, Helen Tauge Tinneny wife of John Tinneny Jr. and her daughter Helen, Alice and her daughter Alice Tinneny Beekler.

John’s wife Alice died in 1942. She was buried shortly before noon on Monday October 26 in Lot no. 267, Section 11,  Westminister Cemetery, Bala Cynwyd. She was buried in the grave with their 7 year old son James who had died in 1918.   

The owners of the burial lot were Alices brother and sister-in-law Matthew and Elizabeth McGooch.  Alice was buried in grave 4 of the 4 grave lot.  Her brother Matthew and his wife Elizabeth are buried in grave 1.  John and Alices son James was buried in grave 2.  John was also buried in grave 2 in 1960.  Two McGooch family members, Mary and Matthew Jr. were buried in grave 3.

Alices death certificate.

Alices obituary.Alices Obituary.

John with daughter Alice.

John met his second wife Mary Margaret Redmond at a restaurant near the Midvale Steel Company where he worked.  Mary was the daughter of James Redmond and Bridget Mahr. She was born in England while her parents were on their immigration journey to America. Mary was raised in the Fish Town/Brewery Town section of Philadelphia. She and John were married at Saint Elizabeth’s Catholic Church on North Twenty-Third Street in Philadelphia in 1946. Mary’s sister Frances and her husband Horace Roehmer were sponsors for the ceremony.

 

 

 

 

John and Marys Marriage registration entry The Pennsylvania Marriage Registration Index.

 

 

 

 

John and Mary.

The head table at John and Marys wedding reception.

L Row: Marie Tinneny Kratz, Frances Roehmer, John, Mary.

R Row: Unk, John Tinneny Jr, Horace Roehmer, James Joseph Tinneny Sr. (Josephs brother)

End of Table: Joseph R. Tinneny son of James J. Tinneny Sr.

Each summer the steel mill closed for 2 weeks. John took advantage of the shutdown to take Mary and Jim to Wildwood, New Jersey for 3 weeks each year.   

Johnny played the piano. He was a great walker and never owned a car.  He would routinely walk from the family home on Silverwood Street up to Ridge Avenue in Roxborough to pick up a bucket of paint, hardware for a projects around the house or to do other shopping.  He and Mary made the long uphill walk right up to the end of his life. 

He followed politics very closely and was a life long Democrat but wasnt politically active beyond voting.  He kept up on current international, national and local news by reading the Philadelphia Evening Bulletin every day. 

 

 

 

 

 

John with his brother-in-law Edward McKenna and his brother James Tinneny Sr.

 

 

 

 

 

 

John after he retired with Mary and James in the late 1950s.

Late May 1960 John began having chest pains that were suspected to be coronary.  He was admitted to Roxborough Memorial Hospital and after about 3 days the doctors decided that it wasnt coronary after all but probably gall stones.  They operated and removed the stones but the strain of the illness and the operation too much on his heart and it gave way.  Johnny died at the hospital on June 13, 1960.

Johns death certificate.

After a Mass at Saint Marys Catholic Church, John was buried shortly before noon Friday, June 17th in Lot No. 267 Section 11 at Westminister Cemetery, Bala Cynwyd, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania.  

Following are screen captures relating to gravesite Section 11, Lot 267 Westminster Cemetery. The images are from posts by Ken Robinson, great-grandson of John and Alice, on the Findagrave website.

Tinneny headstone. Section 11, Lot 276 Westminister Cemetery.

Mary remained in the family home on Silverwood Street until about 1983 at which time her son Jim helped relocate her to the Norlyn Court Apartments in Plymouth Township near his home.  She lived there until, due to health reasons including a broken hip and severe diverticulitis, it was necessary for her to be move into the county home in Oaks, Pennsylvania.  She died 17 or 18 December 1988. Mary was cremated and her ashes placed in the mausoleum in Saint Matthew’s Cemetery in Conshohocken, Pennsylvania.

Marys marker on the crypt at Saint Matthews Mausoleum.

Photos courtesy of Ken Robinson and Richard Tinneny.

Note: The descendants of John Joseph Tinneny include: Tinnenys in his line, Cossabone, Kamm, O'Neill, Doruozio, Thummel, Long, Schwark, Ford, McDowell, O'Malley, Mullen, Snyderman, Janson, Kratz, Robinson, Graczyk, Whittle, Doruzio



 

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